From mwest_at_cdsnet_dot_net Sat Jun 27 18:36:47 1998 Received: from mail-01.cdsnet_dot_net (mail-01.cdsnet_dot_net [206.107.16.35]) by yiff.azaccess_dot_com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27347 for <vintagebus_at_type2_dot_com>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:36:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:36:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199806280136.SAA27347_at_yiff.azaccess_dot_com> Received: (qmail 14348 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1998 01:18:52 -0000 Received: from d01a84a5.dip.cdsnet_dot_net (208.26.132.165) by mail.cdsnet_dot_net with SMTP; 28 Jun 1998 01:18:52 -0000 X-Sender: mwest_at_mail.cdsnet_dot_net Mime-Version: 1.0 To: VintagVW_at_listproc.sjsu_dot_edu From: mwest_at_cdsnet_dot_net (Mike West) Subject: Welding Stuff, mig, wire welder, brazing .. Cc: type2_at_type2_dot_com, Vintage Bus <vintagebus_at_type2_dot_com> This is just some welding stuff I heard of or have used . . Reading of a body man who uses Brazing Wire in his Mig . . . Reverse polarity and straight Argon gas . . . "Greatest thing since sliced bread", he says . . this I want to try. It sounds like a weeener . . . :-) even less heat in the metal While speaking of filler rods or wires . . I use an extra filler rod with the wire welder, where I have a big gap or hole . . You have the welder in your right hand and you feed a filler rod in like you're gas welding with your left hand . . This filler may be a gas welding rod . . or coat hanger, or even a flat strip that fills the gap . . Copper backing strip will keep it all from falling out on you . . Even when stick welding . . I've beat the flux off another welding rod and lay it in the bottom of the gap and weld over it . . . Straight/Reverse Polarity . . . some welders have a switch . . If it's a stick welder you can just reverse the plugs of the cables . Electricity . . the little electrons . . flow from negative to positive . . . In welding, that means with straight polarity, negative work, positive electrode, the heat is hanging in the electrode . . . Reverse polarity puts the heat in the work instead of the electrode. With sheet-metal, straight is what you want . . if you're doing some heavy material and want good penetration, use reverse polarity . . Some stick electrodes don't work except with a certain polarity . . It was mentioned in an earlier post that you can get a magnetic flux going in a weld area and the weld just seems to blow out . . This is not new . . . . if you run into such a phenomenon, tho I don't know how you will recognize it if you're not already experienced, I used to have to wind the ground cable first one way around the work piece and then the other till I got the flux to cancel out . . sometimes you can just wind your ground cable across the welding cable . . no science . . straight magic . . :-)move the part, say a chant or two . . Penetration, per se, is in the voltage . . . to control the voltage, pull the electrode farther back from the work . . . that's the electrode your wire is running out of if you gat a wire welder/mig . . Some have asked about the diff between a wire welder and mig . . None is my first answer . . . but now they have flux core wire welders that don't use gas so we would call that a "wire welder" I guess .. "MIG" stood for "metallic inert gas" was a milspec and AWS designation . . new designation "GMAW" gas metallic arc weld . . further refined this week to "GMAWG" I think, for a ". . . gas" on the end. Don't quote me . . . :-) Getting back to the voltage . . when your weld is getting too hot, you pull back a fraction on the electrode . . . the wire will still get to the work, trust me . . :-) you are literally lowering the voltage. Up-hill welding will give better penetration but also more heat, down-hill the reverse is true . . Second trick: keep the heat in the heavier or bigger piece of metal, it can handle it. . . you do this by directing it at the edge of the big piece and just flirting with the thin piece . . How do you know if it's too hot . ? remember the color it was just before it fell out on the floor ? that's too hot . . :-) Yes the reverse is also true . . if you need more heat in there, get that tip in a little closer . . The Big Clue : what does a good welder sound like ? a good wire welder sounds like a bee . . a 60 cycle bee . . even a stick welder has a sound like that . . you'll know when it's right . . That gets us to those corner fillets . . 3 corners at right angles come together . . . farside . . . :-) naw, give you a break this time. Looking at your wire welding tip, you have the gas shield over the center tip that the wire comes out of . . . The wire runs out and shorts on the work piece and melts and the gas shields the whole thing from air . . otherwise it just turns into a mess . . bubbles 'n stuff . . For the Neophyte . . if this were a shielded arc rig . . the one that doesn't use gas, it has a flux, like the stick electrodes, but it's inside the wire . . when the wire melts, so does the flux and it covers the mew molten metal and shields it from the air . . Ok back to the nozzle . . the gas shield thingy . . the tube there . On flat work, the tip elctrode and the nozzle are both about flush, you're running between "need to see" and have to protect the tip from touching anything . . center is the "hot" part . . With it flush and tipped up about 45 degrees, your tip is about 1/2" from the work . . . this give you good control of said tip . . Push the gun as opposed to pulling like a stick arc . . For working in a fillet situation . . a right angle __[ , you pull the nozzle back and expose more of the tip so you can hold that 1/2" from the work . . This is all because of that big nozzle diameter . . 5/8-3/4" . . There are alternatives . . I still have a nozzle from a prior life that is necked down to about 3/8" and is about twice as long as usual. It also came with a longer center tip so it could still stick out . . This would get you down in those deep corners and still give you the ability to see . . Check with a local welding shop catalog and see what they have. . . give you an idea of how to make one for your rig . . just slips over your stock nozzle . . . Gas pressure . . . inside in a corner, maybe 1/2 cfm . . barely flowing . . you have a fan on or working outside, may need 15 cfm . . Average shouldn't be more than about 4 cfm as I recall . . Keeping all this in mind, lots of times it is in your interest to put up an air shield between the fan and your weld, just something low. Spatter Shield: if you don't have some, get some . . it's a spray can of some stuff that keeps the dingle berries from sticking to your nozzle or tip . . I will describe a good weldor on a job . . he taped a piece of mirror inside a hole, then bent a welding rod into a hook, got in there and stood on his head and welded the backside of this boiler header that was cracked . . it was later x-rayed and found solid . . While you can't get a mig gun in that hole he was in, there is no reason you can't weld the back-side of things by looking in a mirror. Well . . maybe one reason . . :-) west