[T2] type2 Digest, Vol 4, Issue 12

[Tom LaPointe]

The 82 California Vanagon I had placed the ECU on the right side of engine
compartment. 49 states not sure. having the non points dizzy of the Cal
model was nice....


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <type2-request at type2.com> wrote:

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>    1. Re: type 2 and vanagon engines (Jamie)
>    2. Re: type 2 and vanagon engines (doktortim at rockisland.com)
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:54:33 -0400
> From: "Jamie" <jrivers at globalserve.net>
> To: "Tom Tarka" <tommy at slackers.net>,   <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] type 2 and vanagon engines
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> John Anderson wrote this recently,,,
>
> No real issues, sort of...  As I recall, and Dolan had a www page somewhere
> I thought...
>
> First and obvious, unless you got a '79 exhaust system, you aren't going to
> have heat without a lot of effort to plumb vanagon boxes, in point of fact
> pretty impossible/improbable without mucho work.  And to keep the vanagon
> boxes even if you rigged something down to them, would need to plug bus fan
> shroud ports.  People do run the vanagon shroud for better cooling on
> bigger
> T4's, perhaps one could run the alternator and modify the tin there, I've
> never looked at that closely.
>
> So you need a plan for exhaust ('79 boxes or head swap) and alternator (bus
> presumably with bus shroud.)
>
> Dipstick, keep both (ie. make sure you get the vanagon one, it is quite
> acessible) or drive a tapered pin in with some JB weld on it.
>
> Oil filler is not an issue, use the bus one.
>
> Engine bearer holes tapped M10, overdrill your bearers or helicoil the
> holes
> but it will be a double helicoil I think I recall.  The vanagon bolts are
> too long, have a good metric hardware place at hand.
>
> Breather, get the vanagon one or you got to rig something over the flared
> snub.
>
> That is it as I recall.  Only the exhaust/head issue is a real problem.
>  For
> anyone so interested BTW I have a German NOS '79 box BTW, don't recall
> which
> side, bought from BD 12-15 years ago, would part with it for what I gave at
> the time ($299 same as Dansk currently and this is VW German.)
>
> Sure nothing wrong/problematic if the Vanagon mill is solid low mile, and
> you got a good source for a '79 exhaust on the cheap or intended a new one
> $$ anyway.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Tarka"
> >I received the following email from Robert who is wondering how
> >interchangeable an 82 vanagon engine is with a 78 bus, both fuel-injected.
> >
> > I said that the exhaust and heat exchangers would be most of what he has
> > to worry about, but I'm an early-bay guy.
> >
> > Anyone else want to chime in?  His transmission shouldn't need anything
> > new, right?
>
> > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Veterans Agent VeteransAgent at abingtonma.gov
> >> Date: Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM
> >> Subject: Re: type 2 and vanagon engines
> >>
> >> Hi Tom,
> >> That makes perfect sense my bus is a 78 W. team Champagne addition fuel
> >> injected and the Pentagon is an 82 fuel injected engine too so that
> makes
> >> perfect sense do I have to change transmission still willemite my
> >> transmission work on that engine thanks bye.
> >
>
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:29:06 -0700
> From: doktortim at rockisland.com
> To: "Tom Tarka" <tommy at slackers.net>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] type 2 and vanagon engines
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> > I received the following email from Robert who is wondering how
> > interchangeable an 82 vanagon engine is with a 78 bus, both
> fuel-injected.
> >
> > I said that the exhaust and heat exchangers would be most of what he has
> > to worry about, but I'm an early-bay guy.
> >
> > Anyone else want to chime in?  His transmission shouldn't need anything
> > new, right?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >    Tom
>
> The computer and harness will differ.  Vanagon mounts behind rear seat and
> Bus is on the right side of motor compartment. Just install all the 78
> harness/cpu to the 82 long block. Otherwise, swapping long blocks should
> be close to nuts and bolts swap of cooling tin and exhaust which is the
> other differance.
>
> Just study the Bentley manuals for each to get a good plan in mind before
> turning the nuts and bolts. Pay attention to US vs Cal set ups as
> exhausts, injection controls and dizzys are all different. If you have the
> choice, the oxy feedback is a better setup. Not critical, but very
> convienient for setting mixture with nothing but a good multimeter.
>
> And do the next owner a big favor and document well all the part numbers
> and diagrams that define the setup.
>
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