[T2] Headlight problems

[Pat Spragge/RFAN]

Was bob using LEDs in his marker lights or just headlamps?

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> On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Billiumboy <billiumboy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> LED lights do need polarity.
>
> > On Nov 7, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge at rfan.com>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > On second thought it really wouldn't matter since a lamp isn't
> > unidirectional.
> > The power comes from the fuse via the gray wire to the driver side and
the
> > 2nd gray wire goes to the passenger side. The black with white goes to
the
> > turn lever as does the black with green. The circuits are open until
the
> > lever is pulled left or right.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge at rfan.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob, as long as the gray wire(s) 2 on driver side and 1 on passenger,
I
> > believe, goes to the same connection/location on both markers, driver
and
> > passenger, it should be ok. Preferably, the gray wire likely goes to
the
> > solder spot of the lamp and the black with white (driver side)goes to
the
> > lamp base. On the passenger side the wire is black with green?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I dropped the fuse box down to look at the numbers n the relays for
> > Jamie. I have that meter that is suppose to find shorts in the wiring.
It
> > points to the driver's front signal/marker.
> >>>
> >>> According to the schematic, the gray wire goes from connection #58 on
> > both front markers to the first fuse in the fuse box. There is no
number on
> > the light housing. How do I figure out where that connection is?
> >>>
> >>> Bob Pratt
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge at rfan.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob,
> >>>>
> >>>> "I had trouble with the turn signals and 4 way flashers when I first
> > got the vehicle as they were blowing fuses. I somehow fixed the problem
and
> > didn't have any other problems until I replaced the headlights."
> >>>>
> >>>> This statement provides a clue...when you say 'somehow fixed the
> > problem...' I take it the lights just started working again without you
> > doing much more than wiggling wires? Did you take any corrective action
to
> > fix the problem? Might be stating the obvious, but sounds like you have
a
> > short somewhere that reappeared after working on the headlights. These
can
> > be difficult to trace, since you typically keep blowing fuses every
time
> > the short is triggered.  There is a short tester that is used in these
> > situations to help in tracing the shorting circuit. It temporarily
replaces
> > the fuse that is blowing.
> >>>> You might check with your nearest FLAPS and see if they have one.
> >>>>
> >>>> SG Tool Aid 25100 Short Tester by Tool Aid  ~$40
> >>>> http://www.toolaid.com/products/electrical/short-finders
> >>>>
> >>>> You can search on YouTube to see how it works.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Pat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From:        Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> >>>> To:        Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> >>>> Cc:        type2 at type2.com
> >>>> Date:        11/04/2015 06:19 AM
> >>>> Subject:        Re: [T2] Headlight problems
> >>>> Sent by:        "type2" <type2-bounces at type2.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I got the headlights at VinageCarLeds. I was so used to driving at
> > night with the brighter type lights on the family car, that when I took
the
> > bus out at night I couldn't see very well.
> >>>>
> >>>> I had trouble with the turn signals and 4 way flashers when I first
> > got the vehicle as they were blowing fuses. I somehow fixed the problem
and
> > didn't have any other problems until I replaced the headlights.
> >>>>
> >>>> The first thing I did when I discovered the problem was reinstall
the
> > old headlights. It didn't fix the problem. Which makes me think I blew
> > something somewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm going to attempt to pull the fuse box down so I can take a look
at
> > the relays. Jamie wanted to know what the numbers on the relays were.
Maybe
> > I just need to change the relays to something that can handle the new
style
> > lights.
> >>>>
> >>>> I remember 4 or 5 years back when people were changing to halogen
> > lights there was a part that need to be changed or a new circuit that
> > needed to be installed to handle the new lights, but I can't remember
what
> > it was and I can't find it in the archives.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob Pratt
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Kevin Guarnotta
> > <kevin at guarnottadesign.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think the LED headlights are just bringing to the front an issue
> > that was probably there, you just didn't notice it. LED's are typically
> > very sensitive to voltage variation, so they can issues that my remain
> > hidden with regular lights - become readily apparent with LED's.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure about your bus - but I'd check under the dash - there
> > are typically a few under there as well - ie if there is a headlight
relay,
> > or flasher relay - they need to be well grounded to the chassis. Also
the
> > ground on your battery. Sometimes it is the simple things. (I had
issues
> > with my truck for a while, intermittent starting etc, turned out the
ground
> > strap was a little loose on the battery.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then again - where did you find LED headlights? And why are you
> > going with them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Kevin Guarnotta
> >>>>> Jamaica Plain, MA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ’78 Westy
> >>>>> '69 Singlecab
> >>>>> '65 Ez-camper
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Bob Pratt [mailto:ka1dza at verizon.net]
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 5:43 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [T2] Headlight problems
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK. I've replaced of the ground connectors in the rear with new
ones
> > as they were loose and or broken. I've replace the ground connectors
and
> > housings on the front turn signals. I cleaned and reinstalled the
ground
> > strap from the frame to the transmission.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've considered buying a new harness, but they are expensive and
> > they only go from the rear to the fuse box.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I can't understand is that all these problems started when I
> > replaced the headlights with LEDs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob Pratt
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