[T2] type2 Digest, Vol 51, Issue 6

[Bill Bowman]

FYI, just in case you didn't already know about this upcoming VW camping
event in Missouri:

"Buses Nowhere Near The Arch #32"

Formerly, and also known as "Buses By The Arch". A family-oriented VW
camping weekend!

Friday, Sep 1st through Monday Sept 4th, 2017 (The entire Labor Holiday Day
weekend!)

It's time again to make plans to attend the premier Midwest VW Type 2
camping event! On average, we are delighted to host roughly about 100
Buses. (Check out past event coverage in the July, 2011 issue of "Hot VWs
Magazine".)

Come join us for the upcoming "Buses Nowhere Near the Arch" camping
weekend. This family camping event will feature a gathering of VW
Transporters of all types and eras from all over the USA. While
predominantly a Type 2 event, all models of VW are welcome to camp with us!
We are looking forward to seeing you and your Transporter amidst all the
"Split-windshields", "Bubble-windshields", Vanagons, and EuroVans as well
as any other VW types this Fall. All models and years of VWs are invited,
and only VWs are allowed inside the BNNTA event campground.

"Buses Nowhere Near The Arch #32" will be held rain or shine over the
long Labor Day holiday weekend, Friday, Sept 1st thru Sep 4th, 2017. We
will gather again at the "group use" campground at Indian Creek Recreation
Area. This U.S. Army Corps of Engineers campground is located right
alongside 18,000 acre Mark Twain Lake, about 30 miles southwest of historic
Hannibal, Missouri. This is a beautiful, federally-run campground with
paved roads and parking pads and nice facilities. Most conveniences are
available in nearby Monroe City or Hannibal.

On both Friday and Saturday evening we plan to have campfires and music
along with VW and other "unusual" door prizes, and parts swapping in
addition to the "site-to-site" socializing "Bus-banter" that this VW
camping event is famous for. On Saturday morning we are planning another of
our famous "Bus caravans" over to historic Hannibal, the boyhood home of
Samuel Clemens, a.k.a. "Mark Twain." You'll have lots of time to explore
the haunts of his hometown, or tour "Injun Joe's cave." You won't want to
miss it!

If all goes well, on Saturday afternoon we plan another communal gathering
for a pot luck dinner. So if you join us for that, please bring a large
portion side dish to share with everyone! On Saturday evening, owners
choice awards will be presented in several Type 2 classes in addition to
vendor and participant-donated door prizes. If you have a neat VW related
item to donate, bring it along. On Sunday you are free to enjoy the lake or
visit other regional highlights. It should prove to be a relaxed, fun
weekend full of great Volkswagen experiences and new friendships.

Our private camping facilities at Indian Creek include our own large,
private "Buses Nowhere Near the Arch" group area with some electric
hook-ups (first come, first served), fishing, water-sports (bring your
water toys), playground, a huge pavilion, toilet and shower facilities, and
a nearby boat ramp. The all inclusive camping/event fee is $30 per VW for
the entire weekend.

Only VW’s that are registered and camping will be admitted into the BNNTA
group campground area! Now, please read that last sentence again!

Sites in the BNNTA group campground area cannot be reserved in advance. The
gates to our campground will be open for arrivals and site selection by
about noon on Friday. If you arrive earlier, you could stay nearby in the
regular campground at the Indian Creek Recreational Area. Although there
should be plenty of room, the earlier you arrive the better.

We are looking forward to your arrival for a holiday weekend full of
Volkswagen fun. Please pass the word around to your VW friends about this
Volkswagen camping festival held over the long Labor Day holiday weekend!

So wipe down and pack up those Transporters for the cruise over to Mark
Twain Lake for the "Buses Nowhere Near The Arch #32" campout on Friday, Sep
1st thru Monday Sept 4th, 2017 near Hannibal, Missouri. Please see the
website below for lots of photos and information and a link to a mapping
program to find your way to BNNTA.

"Buses Nowhere Near the Arch #32"
Indian Creek Recreation Area, Mark Twain Lake, MO

Directions:

>From Monroe City, MO:
Take US Route 24 southwest approx. 6.5 miles.
Turn left (south) onto State Route "HH", (WATCH FOR "BNNTA" SIGNS)
Proceed almost 1.75 miles, turn left onto first paved road. Monroe County
Road #581. There is an "Indian Creek Marina" billboard as well as a BNNTA
event sign at this turn, then proceed a little over 3.5 miles into the
"Indian Creek Recreational Area" and watch for BNNTA signs on the right for
the turn to the "Group Use Area"; then follow the BNNTA signs into the
"Group Use Area".

Welcome to "Buses Nowhere Near the Arch" ! We'll see you there!

Bill Bowman

http://www.bnnta.com/

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:36:39 +0000
> From: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> To: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] 2nd gear problems
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> Ok - this is actually a 3rd gear problem, but I thought I'd tag along on
> this thread - as my problem came up right after I was jinxed, I mean right
> after I read this post.
>
> My '78 westy does not want to go into 3rd gear, without a LOT of jiggling,
> wiggling, and forcing of the shifter. 1st and 2nd seemed a little off too.
> I thought-I'll check my clutch pedal free play. According to Bentley is
> should be between 5/8" and 1". I had 1.5", so I tightened up the cable.
> This seemed to help 1st and 2nd gear, but 3rd is still a problem.
>
> I came home. With car parked, engine off, it is still difficult to shift
> into 3rd. I was going to start taking the sift rod off - and see if it has
> come out of adjustment? I have 2 small kids, who love to play in the bus, I
> wonder if they could have hit this hard enough to screw up its adjustment?
>
> Should I be looking somewhere else - any ideas or suggestions on where to
> begin troubleshooting?
>
> I have taken this shifter apart on my '65, if I'm reading the Bentley
> correctly - the '78 looks the same. Is that correct?
>
> -Kevin Guarnotta
> Jamaica Plain, MA
>
> '78 Westy
> '69 Singlecab
> '65 Ez-camper
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:46:54 +1200
> From: Robert Mann <robtmann7 at gmail.com>
> To: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] 2nd gear problems
> Message-ID:
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> Kev, sorry to grinch on y', but you shouldn't let little children play with
> any of the controls on your vehicle.
>
> As for your gear-shift problem, I reiterate my surprising discovery.  If
> you don't know whether the transmission oil has been changed in, say, the
> last couple decades or 50,000 mi, at the end of a run when that oil is warm
> so that it'll bring out sludge suspended, drain the trans and slap in one
> of the oils as recently recommended on this list.
>
> Robt Mann
> '73 1600dp Devon
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Kevin Guarnotta <
> kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok - this is actually a 3rd gear problem, but I thought I'd tag along on
> > this thread - as my problem came up right after I was jinxed, I mean
> right
> > after I read this post.
> >
> > My '78 westy does not want to go into 3rd gear, without a LOT of
> jiggling,
> > wiggling, and forcing of the shifter. 1st and 2nd seemed a little off
> too.
> > I thought-I'll check my clutch pedal free play. According to Bentley is
> > should be between 5/8" and 1". I had 1.5", so I tightened up the cable.
> > This seemed to help 1st and 2nd gear, but 3rd is still a problem.
> >
> > I came home. With car parked, engine off, it is still difficult to shift
> > into 3rd. I was going to start taking the sift rod off - and see if it
> has
> > come out of adjustment? I have 2 small kids, who love to play in the
> bus, I
> > wonder if they could have hit this hard enough to screw up its
> adjustment?
> >
> > Should I be looking somewhere else - any ideas or suggestions on where to
> > begin troubleshooting?
> >
> > I have taken this shifter apart on my '65, if I'm reading the Bentley
> > correctly - the '78 looks the same. Is that correct?
> >
> > -Kevin Guarnotta
> > Jamaica Plain, MA
> >
> > '78 Westy
> > '69 Singlecab
> > '65 Ez-camper
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 18:01:15 -0500
> From: Jason Laster <jason at fasterlaster.com>
> To: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] 2nd gear problems
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> Did you happen to check the coupling just in front of the transaxle?  If
> that starts to go, it may be loose enough to not fully 'rotate' it for 3rd.
>  4th is a pull from the transaxle and my experience has usually been that
> movement is a bit easier in general than 3rd.  I'd be surprised if the kids
> had enough strength to move the shifter plate unless it's loose.
>
> Jason
>
> Jason
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Robert Mann <robtmann7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Kev, sorry to grinch on y', but you shouldn't let little children play
> with
> > any of the controls on your vehicle.
> >
> > As for your gear-shift problem, I reiterate my surprising discovery.  If
> > you don't know whether the transmission oil has been changed in, say, the
> > last couple decades or 50,000 mi, at the end of a run when that oil is
> warm
> > so that it'll bring out sludge suspended, drain the trans and slap in one
> > of the oils as recently recommended on this list.
> >
> > Robt Mann
> > '73 1600dp Devon
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Kevin Guarnotta <
> > kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok - this is actually a 3rd gear problem, but I thought I'd tag along
> on
> > > this thread - as my problem came up right after I was jinxed, I mean
> > right
> > > after I read this post.
> > >
> > > My '78 westy does not want to go into 3rd gear, without a LOT of
> > jiggling,
> > > wiggling, and forcing of the shifter. 1st and 2nd seemed a little off
> > too.
> > > I thought-I'll check my clutch pedal free play. According to Bentley is
> > > should be between 5/8" and 1". I had 1.5", so I tightened up the cable.
> > > This seemed to help 1st and 2nd gear, but 3rd is still a problem.
> > >
> > > I came home. With car parked, engine off, it is still difficult to
> shift
> > > into 3rd. I was going to start taking the sift rod off - and see if it
> > has
> > > come out of adjustment? I have 2 small kids, who love to play in the
> > bus, I
> > > wonder if they could have hit this hard enough to screw up its
> > adjustment?
> > >
> > > Should I be looking somewhere else - any ideas or suggestions on where
> to
> > > begin troubleshooting?
> > >
> > > I have taken this shifter apart on my '65, if I'm reading the Bentley
> > > correctly - the '78 looks the same. Is that correct?
> > >
> > > -Kevin Guarnotta
> > > Jamaica Plain, MA
> > >
> > > '78 Westy
> > > '69 Singlecab
> > > '65 Ez-camper
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 23:33:25 -0400
> From: MUTS <muts at verizon.net>
> To: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] 2nd gear problems
> Message-ID: <04a3c2c3-3a01-0890-fbbf-7492eed501c7 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Did you check the nylon bushing around the shift rod in front? It can
> wear away, giving a lot of slop in the shifting.
>
>
> On 8/8/2017 6:36 PM, Kevin Guarnotta wrote:
> > My '78 westy does not want to go into 3rd gear, without a LOT of
> jiggling, wiggling, and forcing of the shifter. 1st and 2nd seemed a little
> off too. I thought-I'll check my clutch pedal free play. According to
> Bentley is should be between 5/8" and 1". I had 1.5", so I tightened up the
> cable. This seemed to help 1st and 2nd gear, but 3rd is still a problem.
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:40:55 +0000
> From: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> To: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: [T2] type2 website
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> When I go to the new https://www.type2.com website, I get lots of warning
> signs about the site not being secure.
>
> -Kevin Guarnotta
> Jamaica Plain, MA
>
> '78 Westy
> '69 Singlecab
> '65 Ez-camper
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:55:55 +0000
> From: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> To: Robert Mann <robtmann7 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] 2nd gear problems
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> OK- Mr. Grinch ;)
>
> My kids NEED to play in the bus. My wife and I discuss this a bit. She is
> always worried about the kids breaking something. I worry more about them
> not enjoying the bus. I want my bus to be a FUN thing for them. They love
> playing in it, and pretending to drive to Mimi & Papa’s (their
> grandparents). If they break something, I’ll fix it. It is basically my
> large toy. I don’t want it to be a museum piece that can’t be touched.
>
> Ok – more important things. As far as warming up the transmission fluid –
> does that mean driving around for 30 minutes or so, I assume if the bus is
> just idling in the driveway – the transmission fluid will not really warm
> up, right?
>
> -Kevin Guarnotta
> Jamaica Plain, MA
>
> ’78 Westy
> '69 Singlecab
> '65 Ez-camper
>
>
> From: Robert Mann [mailto:robtmann7 at gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: [T2] 2nd gear problems
>
> Kev, sorry to grinch on y', but you shouldn't let little children play
> with any of the controls on your vehicle.
>
> As for your gear-shift problem, I reiterate my surprising discovery.  If
> you don't know whether the transmission oil has been changed in, say, the
> last couple decades or 50,000 mi, at the end of a run when that oil is warm
> so that it'll bring out sludge suspended, drain the trans and slap in one
> of the oils as recently recommended on this list.
>
> Robt Mann
> '73 1600dp Devon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:39:23 -0400
> From: Ned Savoie <ned at harbourlight.com>
> To: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] type2 website
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> It needs a secure certificate, but that costs money and someone has to
> install it. Google is pushing everyone to have a "secure" site, but I'm not
> sure a site like this really matters.
>
>
> Ned
>
> --
>
> Ned Savoie
> Creative Director
>
> Harbour Light Strategic Marketing
> Savvy Software, Inc.
> 621A Islington Street
> Portsmouth, NH 03801
>
> [Telephone] 603.427.2821
> [Facsimile] 603.427.0938
> [Mobile] 603.828.2400
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > When I go to the new https://www.type2.com website, I get lots of
> warning
> > signs about the site not being secure.
> >
> > -Kevin Guarnotta
> > Jamaica Plain, MA
> >
> > '78 Westy
> > '69 Singlecab
> > '65 Ez-camper
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:47:12 -0700
> From: Tyler Hardison <tyler at seraph-net.net>
> To: Ned Savoie <ned at harbourlight.com>
> Cc: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>, "type2 at type2.com"
>         <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] type2 website
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I have the new one. I just haven't updated it yet. My apologies. :-)
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Ned Savoie <ned at harbourlight.com> wrote:
>
> > It needs a secure certificate, but that costs money and someone has to
> > install it. Google is pushing everyone to have a "secure" site, but I'm
> not
> > sure a site like this really matters.
> >
> >
> > Ned
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ned Savoie
> > Creative Director
> >
> > Harbour Light Strategic Marketing
> > Savvy Software, Inc.
> > 621A Islington Street
> > Portsmouth, NH 03801
> >
> > [Telephone] 603.427.2821
> > [Facsimile] 603.427.0938
> > [Mobile] 603.828.2400
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Kevin Guarnotta <
> kevin at guarnottadesign.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > When I go to the new https://www.type2.com website, I get lots of
> > warning
> > > signs about the site not being secure.
> > >
> > > -Kevin Guarnotta
> > > Jamaica Plain, MA
> > >
> > > '78 Westy
> > > '69 Singlecab
> > > '65 Ez-camper
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > type2 mailing list
> > > type2 at type2.com
> > > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:55:09 -0700
> From: Tyler Hardison <tyler at seraph-net.net>
> To: Ned Savoie <ned at harbourlight.com>
> Cc: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>, "type2 at type2.com"
>         <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] type2 website
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Ok, new certificate is installed. Thanks for the reminder!
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Tyler Hardison <tyler at seraph-net.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I have the new one. I just haven't updated it yet. My apologies. :-)
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Ned Savoie <ned at harbourlight.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It needs a secure certificate, but that costs money and someone has to
> >> install it. Google is pushing everyone to have a "secure" site, but I'm
> >> not
> >> sure a site like this really matters.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ned
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ned Savoie
> >> Creative Director
> >>
> >> Harbour Light Strategic Marketing
> >> Savvy Software, Inc.
> >> 621A Islington Street
> >> Portsmouth, NH 03801
> >>
> >> [Telephone] 603.427.2821
> >> [Facsimile] 603.427.0938
> >> [Mobile] 603.828.2400
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Kevin Guarnotta <
> >> kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Guys,
> >> >
> >> > When I go to the new https://www.type2.com website, I get lots of
> >> warning
> >> > signs about the site not being secure.
> >> >
> >> > -Kevin Guarnotta
> >> > Jamaica Plain, MA
> >> >
> >> > '78 Westy
> >> > '69 Singlecab
> >> > '65 Ez-camper
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > type2 mailing list
> >> > type2 at type2.com
> >> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> type2 mailing list
> >> type2 at type2.com
> >> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> >>
> >
> >
>
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