[T2] 3rd annual father son trip

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some years ago I put a set of fuel shut off relays made for race cars 
right under my fuel tank. ignition off, they shut fuel off.

obviously with a FI bus like mine the fuel ring has a pretty fair amounnt 
of presure so a fire ext is still critical, last small fire I had I douse 
with a two liter bottle of diet mountain dew which was handy.  at least it 
wasn't sticky to cleam up, but fire ext was in other hand for backup. 
apparently a backfire caught my air filter on fire!! always something new 
with these old things.

Bob




On Sat, 8 Jul 2017, david raistrick wrote:

> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:34:16 -0400
> From: david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> To: Martin Strandgard <mnstra at unimelb.edu.au>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] 3rd annual father son trip
> 
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Martin Strandgard
> <mnstra at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>>> YES - I just remembered to remind you to take the MOST important tool, the fire extinguisher!
>>
>> You could also install a blazecut in the engine bay.
>>
>> http://busjunkies.com/shop/blazecut-fire-suppression-system/
>
>
>
> If someone goes that route - remember it's only a supplemental system.
> That isn't to say it's a bad extra to have - but a full fledge fuel
> line fire with fuel gravity feeding and air fan feededing into it at
> highway speed with an active ignition source is going to be too much
> to ask of it...
>
> (wrote this up for my own notes - looked at this when it first hit the
> market and wasn't sold on it at the time, there was roughly zero info
> then, so did some digging tonight.  there's only anecdotal info now,
> except we now know it contains fe-36 - ~1lb for the 6ft length)
>
> Also, it has been shown to go off prematurely in the heat of a long
> idle (the one example I know of was a border crossing where you're not
> allowed to shut the engine down).
>
> You should probably get the 12' - the smaller sizes really do contain
> a very small amount of agent.  Or 2 of the 6ft.
>
> For better or for worse, it doesnt appear to have been certified in
> any commonly accepted manner - as such it's performance and longevity
> is not well documented.
>
> These guys seem to be the only ones selling it now (it used to be
> available from a number of sources)
>
> https://jogrusa.com/collections/blazecut/products/blazecut-fire-suppression-system-tv400-12
> http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?id=24393
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BlazeCut-Automatic-Fire-Suppression-System-TV400FA-12-foot-4-meter-/132129415879?epid=884902907&hash=item1ec386e2c7:g:GAgAAOSwYXVYzAiD
>
> there are a number of threads discussing this
>
> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=565193&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=539670&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=blazecut&start=60
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