[T2] type2 Digest, Vol 50, Issue 8

[Bruce Maxson]

And valve covers are known to occasionally warp and slowly leak, as if
mis-seated gaskets aren't enough of a problem....

Ask me how I know....lol

-Bruce Maxson
-73 auto, with the soul of a '77 motor

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>    1. Valve cover gaskets (Bob Pratt)
>    2. Re: Valve cover gaskets (david raistrick)
>    3. Re: Valve cover gaskets (Bob Perring via Samsung Tablet)
>    4. Re: Valve cover gaskets (david raistrick)
>    5. Re: Valve cover gaskets (Jack Dinan)
>    6. Re: Valve cover gaskets (MUTS)
>    7. Re: Valve cover gaskets (david raistrick)
>    8. Re: Valve cover gaskets (c.dreike)
>    9. Re: Valve cover gaskets (Bob Pratt)
>   10. Re: Valve cover gaskets (Bob Pratt)
>   11. Re: Valve cover gaskets (Joseph Delecki)
>   12. Re: Valve cover gaskets (Bob Pratt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:45:14 -0400
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <688424CB-FC84-49B5-AC8E-6D30F17F3553 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi all,
> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it when
> I reset the valves a week ago.
> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> I
> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
>
> Bob
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:48:34 -0400
> From: david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> To: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID:
>         <CA+QpJvvBm5sR7hcfW7AgwPwy2c9SFT=09ZMnUdX5Ya22TWdpYA at mail.gmail.
> com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> there should be a few VW shops around athens -
>
> local vw club:
>
> www.athensvwclub.com
>
> a shop:
>
> www.clydesaircooled.com
>
> clyde doesnt seem to list a phone number but
> Clyde can be reached at deanjones53 at hotmail.com
> 1070 Canyon Creek Rd, Watkinsville, GA. 30677
>
>
> also:
>
> Name Athens Import Auto Repair
> Categories General Service/Repair
> Location Athens, Georgia, USA
> Description Import car specialists.
> Experienced with all types and ages of VWs.
>
>
> Directions:
> Eastside Athens. From Lexington Rd to the Carmike Cinema.
> Turn at the Light onto Winterville rd.
> We are 1/2 mile on the left just past the Cemetery.
> Contact Info 835 Winterville Rd
> Athens, Ga. 30605
>
> 706-353-3880
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> > The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> > I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> > I
> > The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >
> > Bob
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:50:55 -0500
> From: Bob Perring via Samsung Tablet <perring at zitomedia.net>
> To: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>, type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <mailman.284.1499899647.933.type2 at type2.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> You may not have it seated properly. Easy error. Easy fix.
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
> -------- Original message --------From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Date: 7/12/17  15:45  (GMT-06:00) To: type2 at type2.com Subject: [T2] Valve
> cover gaskets
> Hi all,
> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it when
> I reset the valves a week ago.
> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> I
> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
>
> Bob
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:52:15 -0400
> From: david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> To: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID:
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>
> if for some reason that fails totally, atlanta, greenville (sc), or
> augusta all have strong vw communities.  dave martin (former listee)
> works at a vw shop in greenville and I have a friend in Greer (sc) I
> could reach out too as well for area ideas...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM, david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> wrote:
> > there should be a few VW shops around athens -
> >
> > local vw club:
> >
> > www.athensvwclub.com
> >
> > a shop:
> >
> > www.clydesaircooled.com
> >
> > clyde doesnt seem to list a phone number but
> > Clyde can be reached at deanjones53 at hotmail.com
> > 1070 Canyon Creek Rd, Watkinsville, GA. 30677
> >
> >
> > also:
> >
> > Name Athens Import Auto Repair
> > Categories General Service/Repair
> > Location Athens, Georgia, USA
> > Description Import car specialists.
> > Experienced with all types and ages of VWs.
> >
> >
> > Directions:
> > Eastside Athens. From Lexington Rd to the Carmike Cinema.
> > Turn at the Light onto Winterville rd.
> > We are 1/2 mile on the left just past the Cemetery.
> > Contact Info 835 Winterville Rd
> > Athens, Ga. 30605
> >
> > 706-353-3880
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> >> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> >> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> >> I
> >> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> type2 mailing list
> >> type2 at type2.com
> >> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:58:02 -0400
> From: Jack Dinan <jdinan at cox.net>
> To: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <70250799-EAA5-4A76-A50A-55CE23C2B3C9 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Please take this simple idea in the right spirit, but this sounds a lot
> like a misalignment of the gasket to the point where it is not seating
> properly.
>
> Smearing ordinary chassis grease on both sides of the gasket helps keep
> the alignment while you are mashing the cover into place and also acts to
> prevent leaking.
> > On Jul 12, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> > The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> > I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> > I
> > The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >
> > Bob
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:02:10 -0400
> From: MUTS <muts at verizon.net>
> To: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <67a5fd92-e97f-77ea-6eb5-d0d914988c72 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Easy to displace the gasket when finding the fit over the head- make
> sure cover is CLEAN, then use lite coat of contact cement on cover face,
> put on the gasket, and it will stay in place.  In my youth, even a coat
> of grease held it in place while setting it.  To prevent the cover from
> riding up as you lever up the locking wire, hold a piece of wood tapered
> at the end about 3/4" thick  over the cover and grease the track of most
> friction.
>
> MUTS  = Michael's Ultimate Thumb Saver oboe, clarinet support
> 93 Chevy Roadtrek 210P
> 78 VW Westfalia Camper
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:03:36 -0400
> From: david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> To: MUTS <muts at verizon.net>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID:
>         <CA+QpJvsTO+SMP9fzXLW4Pq1v9O5Rij-0Z06ie3adZmXq19sULw at mail.
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> and while these are all good ideas about leaking valve cover gaskets,
> I dunno about you but when I'm on the road I dont pull the valve
> covers unless I have a spare set in my hands..
>
> nothing like being stuck because you pulled the cover and the gasket
> fell apart.   a leaking gaskets is better than no gasket.
>
> :)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 6:02 PM, MUTS <muts at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Easy to displace the gasket when finding the fit over the head- make sure
> > cover is CLEAN, then use lite coat of contact cement on cover face, put
> on
> > the gasket, and it will stay in place.  In my youth, even a coat of
> grease
> > held it in place while setting it.  To prevent the cover from riding up
> as
> > you lever up the locking wire, hold a piece of wood tapered at the end
> about
> > 3/4" thick  over the cover and grease the track of most friction.
> >
> > MUTS  = Michael's Ultimate Thumb Saver oboe, clarinet support
> > 93 Chevy Roadtrek 210P
> > 78 VW Westfalia Camper
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
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> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:21:45 -0700
> From: "c.dreike" <c.dreike at verizon.net>
> To: type2 at type2.com, "ka1dza at verizon.net" <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <4e7bacdf-911c-6fb3-d02b-579cd7458f24 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Pull the valve cover, check the gasket. seat properly. Replace it if
> bunged up.  Using grease works to hold the gasket in place. Or you can
> use the silicone gasket sealer which holds the gasket in place
> semi-permanently. My bus was done this way by the engine builder 12
> years ago and at least 6 or 7 valve adjustments later and no leaks.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 7/12/2017 2:58 PM, Jack Dinan wrote:
> > Please take this simple idea in the right spirit, but this sounds a lot
> like a misalignment of the gasket to the point where it is not seating
> properly.
> >
> > Smearing ordinary chassis grease on both sides of the gasket helps keep
> the alignment while you are mashing the cover into place and also acts to
> prevent leaking.
> >> On Jul 12, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> >> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> >> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> >> I
> >> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> type2 mailing list
> >> type2 at type2.com
> >> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:43:01 -0400
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <4FBBCE3B-B8EE-466F-964B-C0FCEC65C21C at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> Thanks Dave,
> I just emailed the administrator.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jul 12, 2017, at 4:48 PM, david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > there should be a few VW shops around athens -
> >
> > local vw club:
> >
> > www.athensvwclub.com
> >
> > a shop:
> >
> > www.clydesaircooled.com
> >
> > clyde doesnt seem to list a phone number but
> > Clyde can be reached at deanjones53 at hotmail.com
> > 1070 Canyon Creek Rd, Watkinsville, GA. 30677
> >
> >
> > also:
> >
> > Name Athens Import Auto Repair
> > Categories General Service/Repair
> > Location Athens, Georgia, USA
> > Description Import car specialists.
> > Experienced with all types and ages of VWs.
> >
> >
> > Directions:
> > Eastside Athens. From Lexington Rd to the Carmike Cinema.
> > Turn at the Light onto Winterville rd.
> > We are 1/2 mile on the left just past the Cemetery.
> > Contact Info 835 Winterville Rd
> > Athens, Ga. 30605
> >
> > 706-353-3880
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> >> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> >> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> >> I
> >> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> type2 mailing list
> >> type2 at type2.com
> >> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:43:50 -0400
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: Bob Perring via Samsung Tablet <perring at zitomedia.net>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <143F5F5C-D3B5-48AF-A54C-00530955A985 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> I'm going to try that in AM when the engine cools.
> Thanks!
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jul 12, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Bob Perring via Samsung Tablet <
> perring at zitomedia.net> wrote:
> >
> > You may not have it seated properly. Easy error. Easy fix.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> > Date: 7/12/17 15:45 (GMT-06:00)
> > To: type2 at type2.com
> > Subject: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> > The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> > I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> > I
> > The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >
> > Bob
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:44:03 +0000
> From: Joseph Delecki <jdelecki at msn.com>
> To: c.dreike <c.dreike at verizon.net>, "type2 at type2.com"
>         <type2 at type2.com>, "ka1dza at verizon.net" <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID:
>         <CY4PR17MB14301CACE689CDBFEC8AAF21C6AF0 at CY4PR17MB1430.
> namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bob ,
>
> Are you sure that the oil leak is due to the valve cover gasket and not
> from oil leaking elsewhere on the engine?
> That’s quite a bit of oil leaking from a gasket unless you have a poorly
> set valve cover bale.
>
>
>
>
> Joe  71 1600dp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> From: c.dreike<mailto:c.dreike at verizon.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 6:20 PM
> To: type2 at type2.com<mailto:type2 at type2.com>; ka1dza at verizon.net<mailto:
> ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
>
> Pull the valve cover, check the gasket. seat properly. Replace it if
> bunged up.  Using grease works to hold the gasket in place. Or you can
> use the silicone gasket sealer which holds the gasket in place
> semi-permanently. My bus was done this way by the engine builder 12
> years ago and at least 6 or 7 valve adjustments later and no leaks.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 7/12/2017 2:58 PM, Jack Dinan wrote:
> > Please take this simple idea in the right spirit, but this sounds a lot
> like a misalignment of the gasket to the point where it is not seating
> properly.
> >
> > Smearing ordinary chassis grease on both sides of the gasket helps keep
> the alignment while you are mashing the cover into place and also acts to
> prevent leaking.
> >> On Jul 12, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> >> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> >> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> >> I
> >> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> >>
> >> Bob
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> type2 mailing list
> >> type2 at type2.com
> >> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:47:16 -0400
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: Joseph Delecki <jdelecki at msn.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> Message-ID: <73FFF1CC-DDEC-410F-B1D7-1BF654EA9047 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> The oil is dripping, it looks like, out the valve cover. I know the oil
> cooler is located on that side. I'm hoping for an easy fix!
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jul 12, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Joseph Delecki <jdelecki at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob ,
> >
> > Are you sure that the oil leak is due to the valve cover gasket and not
> from oil leaking elsewhere on the engine?
> > That’s quite a bit of oil leaking from a gasket unless you have a poorly
> set valve cover bale.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe  71 1600dp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: c.dreike
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 6:20 PM
> > To: type2 at type2.com; ka1dza at verizon.net
> > Subject: Re: [T2] Valve cover gaskets
> >
> > Pull the valve cover, check the gasket. seat properly. Replace it if
> > bunged up.  Using grease works to hold the gasket in place. Or you can
> > use the silicone gasket sealer which holds the gasket in place
> > semi-permanently. My bus was done this way by the engine builder 12
> > years ago and at least 6 or 7 valve adjustments later and no leaks.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 7/12/2017 2:58 PM, Jack Dinan wrote:
> > > Please take this simple idea in the right spirit, but this sounds a
> lot like a misalignment of the gasket to the point where it is not seating
> properly.
> > >
> > > Smearing ordinary chassis grease on both sides of the gasket helps
> keep the alignment while you are mashing the cover into place and also acts
> to prevent leaking.
> > >> On Jul 12, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> Is there anyone near Athens, GA that might have a valve cover gasket?
> > >> The driver side one is leaking badly. It's brand new as I changed it
> when I reset the valves a week ago.
> > >> I've leaked 2 GALLONS of oil since I left Abington 4 days ago!
> > >> I
> > >> The leak wasn't too bad till today. I used 2 quarts just today!
> > >>
> > >> Bob
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> type2 mailing list
> > >> type2 at type2.com
> > >> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > type2 mailing list
> > > type2 at type2.com
> > > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > type2 mailing list
> > type2 at type2.com
> > https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
> >
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-Bruce