[T2] turn signal cancellation

[c.dreike]

Erik,
Bentley says to position the steering wheel in the straight ahead 
position with the spokes at 9:00 and 15:00 with the cancel flange on the 
left side with the turn switch. That is how I set it up. And yes the 
turn signal switch will latch if the flange is not facing the switch ie 
on the right hand side with the ignition lock. This would work a little 
weird as the turn switch should cancel as the steering wheel returns to 
center. When the rain stops (I'm in the Los Angeles area) I'll try 
raising and lowering the TS switch and see if that helps. Bentley says 
there should be a 2-3mm space between the steering wheel and the top of 
the TS switch assembly.

I could use a photo of the fuse box and how the wiring routes out the 
top to the ignition and TS assembly etc.... No hurry. I'm getting ready 
to go to the OCTO show in Long Beach this weekend with my 64 double door.

Thanks,
Chris

On 2/13/2019 3:15 PM, Erik Burtis wrote:
> Chris,
> I'm not sure I'm understanding your situation fully. What do you mean 
> by "the ring is located on the right".  It's the flange that cancels 
> the signal, correct? In my picture, the flange is under the steering 
> wheel spoke as you said and my wheel is centered.  This puts the 
> flange on the right side of my wheel (same side as the key) at about 
> 2-3 o'clock - out of the way of the signal tabs.  In your original 
> email, I believe you said this right side position works?
>
> Also, if my memory is not lying to me, the height of the turn signal 
> switch can make difference.  Try raising the signal housing towards 
> the steering wheel and then lowering it to see if your problem changes.
>
> Thanks.  To date, the tape is working just fine!  I love a simple 
> solution.
>
> I can take a photo of the wiring, no problem.  Today is my long work 
> day, so it won't happen till tomorrow or Friday. Anything in 
> particular you need photographed?
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:26 PM c.dreike <c.dreike at verizon.net 
> <mailto:c.dreike at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Erik,
>     Good information. My cancel ring is in the same position as yours
>     if I'm seeing your photo correctly. The flange is under one of the
>     wheel spokes. If the steering wheel is centered with the spokes on
>     the left and right, then the ring will located on the left facing
>     the turn signal switch. In my case the little nubs don't seem to
>     be able to push out far enough to allow the mechanism to latch as
>     they hit the cancel flange.
>
>     Using the tape to tighten up the housing looks like a good choice
>     to me. Much easier than welding and grinding to fit.
>
>     Any chance of wiring photos later on from under your dashboard?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Chris
>
>     On 2/13/2019 12:58 PM, Erik Burtis wrote:
>>     Hi Chris,
>>     If you look down at the steering wheel, it looks like my
>>     cancelling ring is at 1400 on the clock. A little hard to tell
>>     from the pic (at work, no bus to go see).  Check out the 3rd pic
>>     in this post (with the red arrow), it's the best I can do for the
>>     moment.  Hope it helps.
>>
>>     https://zerotosixtyeventually.wordpress.com/2017/06/09/loose-turn-signal-switch-housing-a-quick-fix/
>>
>>     Erik
>>     '71 Westy
>>
>>     On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:19 PM c.dreike <c.dreike at verizon.net
>>     <mailto:c.dreike at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>         I am reinstalling my steering column and ran into a problem
>>         with the
>>         turn signal cancellation. With the steering wheel installed
>>         per Bentley
>>         the cancel ring is on the left when the steering is centered.
>>         I cannot
>>         get the turn signals to stay on. It is as if the cancel ring
>>         is just a
>>         hair too close to the tabs on the turn signal switch and they
>>         cannot
>>         latch into position. If I turn the wheel so the tab is on the
>>         right,
>>         then the turn signal switch will latch and of course it
>>         cancels when the
>>         wheel is turned back to center. This all worked before I took
>>         it apart.
>>         Nothing appears to be bent or out of shape. I have a new
>>         aftermarket
>>         unit that does the same thing as the original VW unit.
>>         BTW I have the drag link disconnected so that I can spin the
>>         wheel easily.
>>         Anyone have ideas of what to look for or do?
>>
>>         Also the PO did something with the under dash wiring and its
>>         a rats
>>         nest. Could anyone pmail me photos of what the wiring should
>>         look like?
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Chris
>>         71 Sunroof
>>         64DD Kamper Kit
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