[VB] Help! Locked Up Engine that Ran 2 Weeks Ago - Puzzler
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skirt hitting the case? bolt a head up on that other side and see if it helps? On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 8:43 PM Avocado Tom Tarka <avocadotom at gmail.com> wrote: > Following up... > > I looked at in a little more detail and it's binding between TDC and ~12 > ATDC, which would seem to point to something binding as the piston is > coming back into the cylinder. And the cylinder seems to be on there > pretty well (no wiggle when I attempt to move it by hand). > > --- > "We are MoTown. We are professionals. We're here to get the job done." > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:58 AM Avocado Tom Tarka <avocadotom at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Greetings Volks! > > > > I just found myself in a bit of a bind, where my engine which ran when I > > pulled it two weeks ago will no longer turn over. > > > > I'll run through the whole saga for completeness but the basics are that > I > > pulled the engine to replace the transmission and ended up pulling the > 3/4 > > head as well because the #4 spark plug broke off in the head. I just > > torqued the 1/2 head (I usually torque the heads when the engine's out > if I > > can), and when I went to set the valves: no go. The engine doesn't turn > > over by hand (with or without the rocker arm on). The 3/4 head is still > > off, as my plan was to put it on tomorrow. Help? > > > > - Tom > > (full disclosure: I'm cross-posting this to thesamba because I'm a little > > freaked about needing to get this engine back up and running) > > > > Full Story is as Follows: > > > > Background: > > Bus is 1967 with stock transmission. Engine is 1600 SP I rebuilt ~35,000 > > miles ago. > > > > My plan was to pull and replace the transmission on my 1967 bus. I > > figured I'd do a compression check before I pulled the engine, just to > see > > if I should be tackling anything else while the engine was out. I > recalled > > that the compression on #4 might be low, but my notebook is currently > MIA. > > > > Compression was good on cylinders 1-3 (115, 112.5, 115). When removing > > spark plug #4 to check the compression: it broke off. Doh! > > > > [u]The Saga[/u] > > 1. Pull engine. Pull 3/4 head. Remove broken spark plug base with > > extractor. Take head to the machine shop to check threads and valve > guides. > > > > 2. Clean outside of engine and check endplay. It's at 0.009" (no > surprise > > there, I knew it was off). > > > > 3. Attempt to remove gland nut: no go without the engine being in a more > > stable place (instead of on blocks). Decide to wait until the engine is > > back to a longblock, then deal with it. > > > > 4. Clean off built up carbon from the top of the #3 piston. Can't recall > > if I did the #4 piston or not. Currently, the #3 piston is close to TDC > > with #4 all of the way in. (This seems like it could be important or > could > > be a red herring...unclear, but I thought I'd call it out.) > > > > 5. Pull the rocker arm from the 1/2 head and torque the head nuts, first > > to ~7 foot-pounds using the initial sequence, then to 22.5 ft-lbs using > the > > second sequence. None of the upper nuts move in either tightening > > sequence. The lower nuts, particularly the middle two, do tighten during > > the second sequence. > > > > 6. Reinstall push rods and rocker arm after cleaning. Remove flywheel > > lock. Attempt to turn the engine over by hand from the pulley: engine > > doesn't move more than 1/2 inch. > > > > 7. Remove rocker arm and push rods (in case I screwed something up) and > > attempt to turn over engine. Still no dice. > > > > I'm at a loss. If I had adjusted the end play, I could see the engine > > being locked up (I've had that happen before). I can't imagine that > > torquing the heads would have any impact though. > > > > My best guess is that the base of the #4 jug moved a little forward or > > that somehow one of the rings on the #4 piston got caught on the edge of > > the jug somehow. It seems really unlikely that that might be the case, > but > > I just can't think of anything else? > > > > Any ideas? Engine has oil in it, and like I said: it ran fine when I > > pulled it, has decent compression (for a 7:1 ratio), etc. > > > > Thanks! > > Tom > > --- > > "We are MoTown. We are professionals. We're here to get the job > done." > > > _______________________________________________ > vintagebus mailing list > vintagebus at type2.com > https://www.type2.com/lists/vintagebus/listinfo > -- Send from my random mobile device of the week
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