[T2] my '74 bus tailight wires

[T2] my '74 bus tailight wires

Max Bronsema max.bronsema at gmail.com
Tue Jul 15 22:26:52 MST 2014


and the most thorough post thus far this year goes to Jamie.

Great write-up it was an entertaining read too.

Max
'71 Westy "KK-Louise" just back from a 800 mile round trip to the Oregon
Country Fair


On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Jamie <jrivers at globalserve.net> wrote:

> From: "Jamie" <jrivers at globalserve.net>
>> To: "Squid" <sydclarke at shaw.ca>; <type2 at type2.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 5:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [T2] Tailight wires, 74
>>
>
>  what colour wires do you have?
>>> http://vintagebus.com/wiring/Type_2_USA_from_August_1973-2.jpg
>>>
>>
> Syd
> why can't you just splice the wires together where it was cut?  colour for
> colour?
>
> you may have to spell out what colour wires you are looking at.... and it
> may help to see if the wires are black / colour stripe.. or black / colour
> bands..
> I think that may help you figure out that the colour bands are for the
> test network test socket , which in most cases , that wire can be ignored
> as NOBODY uses that test network test socket.... i think you will notice
> the 0.5mm small wires are also the test points, and like I said, those
> wires are probably not needed
>
> but lets try this to identify what goes where...
>
> caution, It really depends on where the harness was " 'carved off'
> ..randomly..".. you may run into a few black wires... the rest are unique
> colour to each component
> the list of black wires below can be confooosing..
>
> when you say carved off.. I have to assume the terminals on the wires are
> cut off.. gone..
> you need to notice that most of the lamp holders
> [signal,brake,ground,reverse] have 0.250 spades,, and 0.125 ish spades on
> the tail lamp holder
>
> you need to notice that there are large, 1.5mm dia ,, and 1.0 dia ,, and
> small 0.5mm dia wire..
>
> the next list below that , of wires only in the taillight housing have the
> description,
> and I added the lamp address,M4 and the track no.54 --bentley 1974-
> chap4-pg40
> if you have a different manual, it may be different page, chapter, and
> track no.. sigh.. can't help that..
>
> these wires that are [could be] all black...
> reverse lights , should be obvious as the fuse holder is attached to the
> ignition coil, goes to the trans nose cone switch, then returns to the lamp
> holder
> ignition power to coil, power should go on and off with Key,, with turn
> signals off, brake off, trans in neutral
> and westfalia harness alternator trigger to aux battery relay, only found
> on some westfalia Alt harness attaches to battery B+
> the carb choke, and jet wires are black toooo.. but they are not in a
> harness,, so I think I [we, you] can ignore them..
> IIRC, there is another black wire , that is very easy to interchange with
> the coil power wire,, I can't remember what that wire feeds tho! lol
> you may have to spell out what colour wires you are looking at
>
> Ok,,, just looking at the wiring at the lamp holders..
>
> you have a large harness in the right side lampholder that enters the
> bottom..
> also there is a side marker harness at the top.. only 2 wires... the side
> marker ground tags to the body beside the lampholder
>
> you have a large harness in the left side lampholder that enters the top...
> also there is a side marker harness at the bottom,, .. only 2 wires... the
> side marker ground tags to the body beside the lampholder
>
>
> top to bottom on the lamp holder
>
> Left side rear
>
> Turn signal - black / white -0.250" term 1.0 dia dwg M6  track 43
> ----bugged on is a *white 1.0 dia* to test network test socket 10
>
> ground - brown -0.250" term
>
> Brake - black / red -0.250" term 1.5 dia dwg M4  track 54 --- bugged on is
> a black / red 0.5 dia to test network test socket 12
>
> Tail - grey / black -0.125" term 0.5 dia  dwg M4  track 30  --- bugged on
> is a red  0.5 dia ??? to test network test socket ???
> also there is a black -0.125" term for the side marker lamp M12 track 31..
>
> reverse - black  -0.250" term 1.5 dia dwg M16  track 66
>
> note , dwg says *black / white 0.5 dia on dwg* to test network test socket
> 10
>
>
> right side rear
>
> Turn signal - black / green -0.250" term 1.0 dia dwg M8  track 47
> ---bugged on is a black / green 0.5 dia wire to test network test socket 11
>
> ground  brown-0.250" term-
>
> Brake - black / red -0.250" term 1.5 dia dwg M2  track 53... bugged on is
> a 1.5 dia  black / red  to left side M4 track 54
>
> Tail - grey / red  -0.125" 0.5 dia dwg M2  track 35 --- bugged on is a
> grey / red  0.5 dia to license light X
> also there is a black -0.125" term for the side marker light..
>
> reverse - black  -0.250" term dwg M17  track 65
>
>
> phew,,, I hope you can understand that.......
> otherwise,, write back
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "syd clarke" <sydclarke at shaw.ca>
> To: <type2 at type2.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:33 PM
> Subject: [T2] my '74 bus tailight wires
>
>
>
>  Hi..scoggy here in Canada..and.. my plight is that the 'body guy' just
>> 'carved off' the wires..randomly..and now that I am at my last ..point..I
>> have read the manual over, and over, but if someone else had a similar '74
>> bus..could they just look and see what wires go to each bulb..then I could
>> 'color coordinate' my wires..and be done! You don't have to remove the
>> units..just pull off the wires going to the respected bulbs, write down
>> what color wire and then post them..can you..please..because..I need this
>> 'beauty' on the road!
>>
>
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