[T2] type2 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 5

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>   1. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus (John Klingler)
>   2. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus (Bob Pratt)
>   3. Christmas in Baltimore (Kevin Guarnotta)
>   4. Re: Steering Wheel Puller (Kevin Guarnotta)
>   5. Re: Steering Wheel Puller (david raistrick)
>   6. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus..........Also,
>      the oil pressure light (Jamie)
>   7. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus..........Also,
>      the oil pressure light (Bob Pratt)
>   8. Re: Christmas in Baltimore (Bob Pratt)
>   9. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
>      (Paul and Kathryn Abdis)
>  10. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus (Scott Busby)
>  11. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus (Bob Pratt)
>  12. Re: Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus (Bob Pratt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 14:01:44 -0500
> From: John Klingler <hjklingler at gmail.com>
> To: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
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> It's not that hard to replace the wiring harness. I replaced every inch on
> my 68 double cab. And it's great working with new wiring.
>> On Jan 13, 2016 12:20 PM, "Bob Pratt" <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I forgot to wish everyone a happy and prosperous new year. I'm STILL
>> having problems with the turn signals/emergency flashers.
>> 
>> As per Bentley, I conducted a conductivity test on the turn signal switch
>> and the the test showed the switch was OK. SO... The only other thing left,
>> I think, is the flasher relay.
>> 
>> Because I confuse easily, is the correct relay the black box or the silver
>> one.
>> 
>> Also, the oil pressure light does not work. I've changed the switch and
>> made sure the blue/green wire was not broken. Does anyone have any
>> suggestions on what to do next?
>> 
>> I'm on the verge of just buying a whole new wiring harness and change
>> every wire in the bus.
>> 
>> Bob Pratt
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:01:39 -0500
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: John Klingler <hjklingler at gmail.com>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
> Message-ID: <32CD7229-83B6-432E-93EF-97A728016CF0 at verizon.net>
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> Thanks for the feedback John.
> What company do you use for the wiring? I noticed that no one offers a complete harness for the 1971. Do companies offer the second part of the harness for the front wiring?
> Thanks.
> 
> Bob Pratt
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 2:01 PM, John Klingler <hjklingler at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not that hard to replace the wiring harness. I replaced every inch on my 68 double cab. And it's great working with new wiring.
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2016 12:20 PM, "Bob Pratt" <ka1dza at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I forgot to wish everyone a happy and prosperous new year. I'm STILL having problems with the turn signals/emergency flashers.
>>> 
>>> As per Bentley, I conducted a conductivity test on the turn signal switch and the the test showed the switch was OK. SO... The only other thing left, I think, is the flasher relay.
>>> 
>>> Because I confuse easily, is the correct relay the black box or the silver one.
>>> 
>>> Also, the oil pressure light does not work. I've changed the switch and made sure the blue/green wire was not broken. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do next?
>>> 
>>> I'm on the verge of just buying a whole new wiring harness and change every wire in the bus.
>>> 
>>> Bob Pratt
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> type2 mailing list
>>> type2 at type2.com
>>> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:03:01 +0000
> From: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> To: "accessys at smart.net" <accessys at smart.net>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: [T2] Christmas in Baltimore
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> Hi Bob - Congrats on finally getting your bus going. I hope you get a tiny bit of good weather to enjoy it before too much salt gets thrown on the road!
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:07:06 +0000
> From: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> To: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Steering Wheel Puller
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> Hey Bob,
> 
> I've got one if you want to borrow it. Pmail and we'll figure out a way to get it to you. 
> 
> It is the one that is pictured here - http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1766398. It works great. No way to get a wheel off a '65 or '69 without it. When I used it, I got the loudest bang when the thing came loose. That being said - it was not perfect - I can't recall if it was in my Bay window or Splittie that it was a little tricky getting it to work. 
> 
> -Kevin Guarnotta
> Jamaica Plain, MA
> 
> '78 Westy
> '69 Singlecab
> '65 Ez-camper
> 
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:23:52 -0500
> From: david raistrick <keen at icantclick.org>
> To: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Steering Wheel Puller
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> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Bob,
>> 
>> I've got one if you want to borrow it. Pmail and we'll figure out a way to
>> get it to you.
>> 
>> It is the one that is pictured here -
>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1766398.
> 
> 
> 
> That's Joey's. :)   You got a picture of the mod to make it work for a
> baywindow?  Mine is unmodded - not that I need to pull a bay wheel, but
> would be good to know what is needed should the day come...maybe I'll print
> the pic and stick it in my bentley...
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:16:59 -0500
> From: "Jamie" <jrivers at globalserve.net>
> To: "Bob Pratt" <ka1dza at verizon.net>,    <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971
>    bus..........Also,    the oil pressure light
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> 
> From: "Bob Pratt"
>> Also, the oil pressure light does not work. I've changed the switch and 
>> made sure the blue/green wire was not broken. Does anyone have any 
>> suggestions on what to do next?
> 
> 
> Bob,, the oil pressure light is the simplest circuit on the bus.. so .. go 
> to the oil pressure switch,, remove the wire.. and attach it to ground so it 
> stays there.. like with an aligator .. make sure it is grounded.
> 
> then go to the front of the bus.. and find the blue green wire near the dash 
> lamp for the oil pressure indicator
> 
> attach your test light clip to a hot fuse.. touch the test light probe to 
> ground,, light comes on... you have a good hot ,, and a good ground,,
> 
> now , touch the test light probe to the blue green wire..... you might have 
> to poke a tiny hole in the blue green wire insulation.... or go right to the 
> lampholder on the dash...
> 
> you should get the test lamp to light as your have grounded that wire at the 
> engine..
> 
> if the test light doesn't light,, then you have a broken wire,, or a poor 
> ground at the engine,,
> 
> or,,,,,,,, there is a 6 terminal block where the blue green wire connects 
> thru... I don't know where it is located on a 71,, but it should be near the 
> dash,, maybe under the fuse panel,, just before the wiring exits the cab and 
> goes under the bus..
> 
> that 6 terminal connector also has left brake /  rear turn signal,,, starter 
> solenoid ,,,, fuel gauge ,,,  generator dash light ,,, and another part of 
> the rear brake light circuit thru the equalize switch
> are  you having trouble with any of those 6 ?
> 
> IF the test light comes on,, turn on the key and see if the dash oil 
> pressure lamp turns on........... no love?  check the ground on the dash 
> with your test light.. it is still connected to that hot fuse ,, and the tip 
> connects to the ground circuit on the gauge cluster ... no love? you need a 
> ground jumper from the body to the instrument cluster... if it does 
> light....... check the lamp is good...
> 
> put your test light from the blue green wire.. and touch the instrument 
> cluster ground.. if the test light comes on.. then you have a problem right 
> at the dash lamp holder,, or lamp itself..
> 
> hope that helps
> Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:14:42 -0500
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: Jamie <jrivers at globalserve.net>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971
>    bus..........Also, the oil pressure light
> Message-ID: <55FE02FC-7B54-4CDF-AD88-1B1AFE8BE86F at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thanks for the tip Jamie.
> I ran a wire from the blue/green wire from the switch through a VOM to the blue/green wire at the instrument panel and got conductivity, but I'll check the other possibilities too as soon as the weather warms up a bit.
> 
> Bob Pratt
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Jamie <jrivers at globalserve.net> wrote:
>> 
>> From: "Bob Pratt"
>>> Also, the oil pressure light does not work. I've changed the switch and made sure the blue/green wire was not broken. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do next?
>> 
>> 
>> Bob,, the oil pressure light is the simplest circuit on the bus.. so .. go to the oil pressure switch,, remove the wire.. and attach it to ground so it stays there.. like with an aligator .. make sure it is grounded.
>> 
>> then go to the front of the bus.. and find the blue green wire near the dash lamp for the oil pressure indicator
>> 
>> attach your test light clip to a hot fuse.. touch the test light probe to ground,, light comes on... you have a good hot ,, and a good ground,,
>> 
>> now , touch the test light probe to the blue green wire..... you might have to poke a tiny hole in the blue green wire insulation.... or go right to the lampholder on the dash...
>> 
>> you should get the test lamp to light as your have grounded that wire at the engine..
>> 
>> if the test light doesn't light,, then you have a broken wire,, or a poor ground at the engine,,
>> 
>> or,,,,,,,, there is a 6 terminal block where the blue green wire connects thru... I don't know where it is located on a 71,, but it should be near the dash,, maybe under the fuse panel,, just before the wiring exits the cab and goes under the bus..
>> 
>> that 6 terminal connector also has left brake /  rear turn signal,,, starter solenoid ,,,, fuel gauge ,,,  generator dash light ,,, and another part of the rear brake light circuit thru the equalize switch
>> are  you having trouble with any of those 6 ?
>> 
>> IF the test light comes on,, turn on the key and see if the dash oil pressure lamp turns on........... no love?  check the ground on the dash with your test light.. it is still connected to that hot fuse ,, and the tip connects to the ground circuit on the gauge cluster ... no love? you need a ground jumper from the body to the instrument cluster... if it does light....... check the lamp is good...
>> 
>> put your test light from the blue green wire.. and touch the instrument cluster ground.. if the test light comes on.. then you have a problem right at the dash lamp holder,, or lamp itself..
>> 
>> hope that helps
>> Jamie
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:25:12 -0500
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Christmas in Baltimore
> Message-ID: <E9FF9452-C469-45AE-B9DE-531AC6A99F40 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I've been driving it (Myles) around the area for a while now in between trying to get rid of the next gremlin that rears its ugly head which is just about every week. LOL.
> 
> Bob Pratt
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Kevin Guarnotta <kevin at guarnottadesign.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bob - Congrats on finally getting your bus going. I hope you get a tiny bit of good weather to enjoy it before too much salt gets thrown on the road!
>> 
>> -Kevin
>> _______________________________________________
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>> type2 at type2.com
>> https://www.type2.com/lists/type2/listinfo
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 21:19:58 -0500
> From: "Paul and Kathryn Abdis" <pa.ka at verizon.net>
> To: <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
> Message-ID: <003e01d14e72$2e56be10$8b043a30$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Let me make a couple of suggestions
>    1.  For the oil pressure light.  Take the wire off the oil pressure switch and check for 12 volts at the wire terminal end.  If you've got the voltage then put the wire end terminal to a good ground and go look to see if the light is on.  If you had the voltage but the light doesn't come on with a the wire grounded I'd say the bulb is bad.  If the light does come on then you're not getting a ground through the oil pressure switch.
>    2.  I just replaced the flasher in our '71 but I forget what color it was.  I just ordered one by model year from one of the on-line vendors and it fit and worked fine.
> 
> Paul A.     (I've been lurking on the list for many years after being active for quite a few years)
> 71 westy
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:52 -0500
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
> Message-ID: <B2CC5F5F-B32B-4D3E-B06A-9C67EBAA90BB at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi all,
> I forgot to wish everyone a happy and prosperous new year. I'm STILL having problems with the turn signals/emergency flashers. 
> 
> As per Bentley, I conducted a conductivity test on the turn signal switch and the the test showed the switch was OK. SO... The only other thing left, I think, is the flasher relay.
> 
> Because I confuse easily, is the correct relay the black box or the silver one. 
> 
> Also, the oil pressure light does not work. I've changed the switch and made sure the blue/green wire was not broken. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do next?
> 
> I'm on the verge of just buying a whole new wiring harness and change every wire in the bus.
> 
> Bob Pratt
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> ************************************
> 
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:07:21 -0800
> From: Scott Busby <swbusby at gmail.com>
> To: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> I found this site to be helpful with turn signal flasher problems:
> http://www.procarcare.com/includes/content/resourcecenter/encyclopedia/ch14/14TSTurnSignals.html
> 
> Scott Busby
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 21:42:19 -0500
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: Paul and Kathryn Abdis <pa.ka at verizon.net>
> Cc: type2 at type2.com
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
> Message-ID: <34BE5370-661B-49AE-8FBB-21AFF42D6825 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thanks Paul.
> 
> Bob Pratt
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Paul and Kathryn Abdis <pa.ka at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Let me make a couple of suggestions
>>   1.  For the oil pressure light.  Take the wire off the oil pressure switch and check for 12 volts at the wire terminal end.  If you've got the voltage then put the wire end terminal to a good ground and go look to see if the light is on.  If you had the voltage but the light doesn't come on with a the wire grounded I'd say the bulb is bad.  If the light does come on then you're not getting a ground through the oil pressure switch.
>>   2.  I just replaced the flasher in our '71 but I forget what color it was.  I just ordered one by model year from one of the on-line vendors and it fit and worked fine.
>> 
>> Paul A.     (I've been lurking on the list for many years after being active for quite a few years)
>> 71 westy
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:52 -0500
>> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
>> To: type2 at type2.com
>> Subject: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
>> Message-ID: <B2CC5F5F-B32B-4D3E-B06A-9C67EBAA90BB at verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I forgot to wish everyone a happy and prosperous new year. I'm STILL having problems with the turn signals/emergency flashers. 
>> 
>> As per Bentley, I conducted a conductivity test on the turn signal switch and the the test showed the switch was OK. SO... The only other thing left, I think, is the flasher relay.
>> 
>> Because I confuse easily, is the correct relay the black box or the silver one. 
>> 
>> Also, the oil pressure light does not work. I've changed the switch and made sure the blue/green wire was not broken. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do next?
>> 
>> I'm on the verge of just buying a whole new wiring harness and change every wire in the bus.
>> 
>> Bob Pratt
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> ************************************
>> 
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:29:55 -0500
> From: Bob Pratt <ka1dza at verizon.net>
> To: Scott Busby <swbusby at gmail.com>
> Cc: "type2 at type2.com" <type2 at type2.com>
> Subject: Re: [T2] Turn signals/emergency flashers 1971 bus
> Message-ID: <488BC201-C022-43B5-B725-B0F8D28F62CA at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thanks for the info Scott. I bookmarked the site. I'll look at this this PM.
> 
> Bob Pratt
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Scott Busby <swbusby at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I found this site to be helpful with turn signal flasher problems:
>> http://www.procarcare.com/includes/content/resourcecenter/encyclopedia/ch14/14TSTurnSignals.html
>> 
>> Scott Busby
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